Tuesday, 21 October 2014

How much should a family of five spend on food a week?

Hello Dear Reader,

I haven't included your name but as promised, here's the help I offered earlier today.

You posed this question " What do you think is a realistic budget to set for a family of two adults and three children". I don't know much more about you but I do know you have a little one in nappies. From what you say, you are currently spending about £480 a month with a big shop once a week at Aldi and then top up shops from Asda, as and in your own words, you seem to run out of things a few days later.

Ok, on that basis, I will do the best I can to advise you but I will forewarn, you may not like everything I say and you certainly don't have to do any of it. I'm simply answering your question.

To start, I want you to stock take everything you would buy on any shopping trip.

Here's the sub- headings I want you to work with:

Toiletries - what do you have? I want you to use up every scrap of shampoo, every slither of soap and the cheap loo rolls in the cupboard that everyone complains about!

Now make a list of only things you need for one week. Tick them off

loo rolls,
soap - get unscented, you can use that for babies, children and adults
deodorant - get unscented men's and then you can both use it
shampoo and conditioner - just use the generic supermarket children's variety - adults can use this too
toothpaste - supermarket cheapest whitening will do.

You don't need anything fancy, what is above will do!

Baby products - I want you to find all of the wipes in the car, down the side of the sofa, in your bag and so on, all the creams, lotions and nappies. Make sure you've got them all in one place. 

Aldi nappies - stock up! Get a pile that will see you through a fortnight
unscented wipes - at home, wipe with tissue and then wipe again with wet tissue run under the tap.

If you use bum cream, get it from the cheapest place or use the supermarket generic.

Next, I know leaving a child in nappies until they are forty six is the fashion, but those of us who had two dozen terry nappies and had to wash them, got our kids out of nappies as soon as we could. Save money by early potty training, yes.....just think about the benefit of having a toddler out of nappies. You will need your day care provider on the schedule too so have a firm word with them. I had mine dry by day by 18 months and dry by night (although I had to lift them in their sleep and put them on the pot) by two years. It was the way it was done then.

Cleaning products.

Again, I want you to find every cleaning product you have in the house and stock take, you are now going to use every scrap of every bit of this. Once that is done, you only need the following


  • washing up liquid or dishwasher tablets - I always scour everywhere for the cheapest of these and stock pile them when on offer. Also, I scrape my plate before I put them into the dish washer.
  • bleach - 1 bottle will wash the loo, floor, work surfaces - just make sure the kids are with your partner when you are using it.
  • Bicarbonate of soda - this will clean everything, I use it to clean the oven, sink and bath
  • Vinegar - I use this to clean windows in a bottle with a squirt of washing up liquid and water. This also clean wall tiles.


You don't need anything else.

Saved some money yet???

You see, you will free up a lot of income when you only buy what you need and stop buying what everyone else does.

Food.

You have a big stock take to do here.

You will need to list:


  • Everything in the freezer

  • In the fridge

  • In the cupboard.

I now want you to invent meals with just what you have. When you go out on random supermarket trips, I will bet you could have eaten what there was but didn't want to.

Now, here's what you really must do before you go shopping again.

Plan a week's meals. All the meals, breakfast, snack, lunch and dinner. To begin with, keep it very simple, you go out to work and you've got three children.

You may well have to start using the words 'no' and 'that's all there is' with family members. You are not being mean, you are just working with the budget you have. 

Breakfast - plain cereals, milk and toast - the occasional treat of Aldi chocolate spread on toast for breakfast is lovely.

Snack - most schools will insist on fruit and water for snacks - make sure you top up drinks bottles with tap water. Buy enough apples or which ever fruit you give them to last all week. 

Lunch - I want to get the Bento box mums, who have perfectly packed pretty lunch boxes to sod off and leave the rest of us alone! When my kids were getting out the door, and I was getting to work, a sandwich, piece of quiche, some leftovers in a tub just had to do. What ever your kids have for lunch, make sure you have enough for the week. Keep it simple to begin with but don't buy ready stuff like yogurts in tubes and iddy bits of wrapped cheese. You can give them a pot of yogurt for dessert with their evening meal. You and your partner also need to take your own water bottle, filled of course with tap water, your own coffee and milk and of course your own lunch. 

You must be saving money by now!

Evening meals.

Plan a very simple week to begin with. Make sure it is food that will cook quickly or in a slow cooker so you can have everyone fed within an hour of getting in from work. If they are child minded after school, leave a low calorie snack such a carrot sticks so they are hungry at meal times and eat their supper. You waste money over and over if you try and please everyone, a good meal of 'shut up and eat it' is fine. 

In summary, stock take everything you have.

Scale back on toiletries, baby products and cleaning products.

Plan all meals, including breakfast, snacks, packed lunches for all the family and all evening meals.

Here's a suggestion for the week ahead.


  • Baked potatoes, beans and grated cheese. Tinned rice pudding and tinned pears

  • Fish fingers, oven chips and frozen mixed veg - fruit yogurt

  • Chicken (cut into cubes or bought in chunks or stips - a pack of quorn would do just fine) fried then served with tomato sauce (supermarket value is fine) with mashed potatoes and brocolli. 

  • Cottage pie, steamed veggies.  - sponge pudding and custard

  • Pasta, cheese sauce and cauliflower and brocolli - fruti yogurt

  • Veggie chilli with rice - tinned rice pudding and jam

  • Roast chicken, roast spuds, Yorkshire puddings, gravy.- sponge pudding and custard.
Any of that can be eaten by children, will mash up for little ones being spoon fed and can go into a pot to be re-heated for lunch the next day.

This will be a big task to begin with and I suggest setting aside a whole day this weekend to stock take and plan. The biggest way to waste money is to buy what you already have. The second is to shop without a menu plan for three meals a day plus snacks. 

Here's my challenge. I want you to spend no more than £100 a week - and that's for everything so you will need to get organised. When you've done that for a month, then reduce that to £90 a week, after another month, get that down to £80. I think that is a reasonable amount for a family to comfortably feed everyone on, including the nappies (Aldi's cheap nappies are popular).

It's going to be a challenge to get your monthly household spending down to £320 which will save you £160 a month and £1920 a year. I'm sure some planning, generic nappies and toiletries and simple food will be worth it for your family.

Yes, I think a family of five can eat three meals a day on £80 a week. A lot of families of that size only dream of having that much money.

There are millions of mum the world over, who don't have the luxury of thinking about how to save, but just take the most meagre amount of food and just try and keep their children alive everyday. We all need to remember how blessed we are that we can make any choices at all.

I will repeat what I said earlier.

You don't have to do any of these things. Keep doing what ever you like but as promised, you asked for help and I did the best I can to advise you.



All my love,

Froogs xxxxx






37 comments:

  1. Excellent post Froogs, to the point and extremely useful information. Following your guideline and taking time to plan £80 is a reasonable amount to maintain a healthy diet and to keep a home sparkling clean.

    Enjoy the rest of your week...nearly half term! xx

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  2. Helpful advice for anyone wanting to save money on groceries. Thanks!
    You cracked me up with the bento box comment. :D

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  3. Great advice as ever. I hope it is taken on board. When you mentioned the lunch boxes I knew exactly what you meant, I work in school and see an unbelievable amount of food and money wasted on pre-packed little bits of nonsense! Some children seem to have one of every kind which they open take a bite and waste, sometimes they just open them then waste. How much food do some people think these tiny children need? A sandwich, fruit and a yogurt is better than a selection of themed packet junk. xx

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  4. Great advice, all of it! And it can be done. We regularly spend about £65-£70 a week at the supermarket for our family of five. Getting the youngest out of nappies was the most significant money saving turning point. We used a 'MyWeeFriend' in the potty which seemed to make our toddler more keen after I got fed up of washing six pairs of trousers a day for a while!

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  5. Also laughed at the Bento box comment!! As a teacher I see what kids have in their lunchboxes and most of them have more food than me! And yep, a lot of it is wasted although as a whole school we are having a huge crackdown on food waste. Here in Scotland from January, all children from Primary 1 to Primary 3 (Reception to Year 2 equivalent in England) will get a free school lunch. It will interesting to see who still sends their fussy kids to school with processed cr@p in their lunchboxes

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  6. Super post! I am in exactly the same situation as this lady. My mum is taking my toddler out in the morning so I have planned a stock taking day. My cupboards are bunged so I know I don't need to buy anything this week. I am also going to try your challenge, doubt you'll mind, of reducing grocery bills. Thank you so much, sometimes seeing common sense in black and white seeps into the brain!! xx

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  7. Excellent advice...I had to move in with Mom due to her health about 18 months ago...last month was the first time I purchased bath soap since the move...what a stash she had all over the house...considering I used to spend $10-12 a month on liquid bath soap it's been a great lesson in saving...using up her stash of cleaning supplies has saved even more...using things up and making do with what's on hand has made a lot of difference in my savings this year

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    1. Liquid soap recipe from bar soap works a treat http://youtu.be/5-DKT6w3AdQ

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  8. Love it. Some of the best and clearest advice ever. Everyone needs to decide what is important to them and their family. If savings is important to meet goals, they can do it. If they just want to complain that life is hard, they can continue to complain that life is hard and that is all it will ever be.

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  9. I'm with Kathy, that bento box comment was spot on :)
    Lots of great advice here for everyone I think, even those who are already doing a great job budgetting.
    Thanks so much for sharing
    cheers Kate

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  10. What I appreciate is your honest answers, and the reality check that it is all about choices, for so many of us. Absolutely being able to choose between spending $120 a week and $80 is a personal luxury some of us have, and others do not. I felt guilty once packing a lunch for a field trip for my daughter because we didn't have any "special things", or juice boxes or soda in the house. She brought a water bottle, sandwich, fruit, and a string cheese. I remember asking her if she had enough for lunch, and she said, "yes, it was good." Why I gave no juice boxes or soda a second thought is beyond me now-she has always preferred water as a beverage anyway. I don't know why field trips became code for packing expensive crap in lunches, but I fall for it. .

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  11. This post may well save my life! Great post - I need to stocktake what we have this weekend and have a no spend half term using up. Particularly like your 'thats it' mentality to teatimes. What I cook is healthy basic and homemade and my kids need to eat it! X

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  12. I had to Google what a Bento box was Ha, how out of touch am I?

    We have a family of five, four Men for heavens sake as well but manage to spend £50 a week (this does not include pet food though) we also have around £10 a week which is put in a pot for bulk buying when things are on offer as we found being able to stock up on essentials is a big money saver.

    Even we open the freezer and look at stuff we don't want to eat though lol. We must improve on that ;)

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    1. Me too Julee! I had never heard of a Bento box. We've always just made do with a plastic rectangular box with a lid for packed lunches. If things need separating within the box, I just use a small amount of greaseproof paper to wrap the item. Packed lunches have saved us tens of thousands of pounds over the years!

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  13. What a thoughtful post. You are lovely. Those crazy bento box moms are nuts, too.

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  14. Great post. I'm with you on the nappy/potty training front. Mine were dry by eighteen months, they are now in their thirties, that was the way it was done! Please may I give a tip? To get every last drop out of any bottle from a sauce bottle, cooking oil bottle, to shampoo bottles etc when they look empty stand them upside done, stand then in a cup/mug, but you soon become adept of balancing them on their tops, you will be surprised what is left in any bottle. Use a spatula for jam jars etc.
    Julie

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  15. If you have a bunch of unsupportive whingers. Just remember ive got away with a few tricks undiscovered for years . Toiletries , wait till the posh stuff has nearly run out then decant the supermarket generics into the posh bottles give it a good shake they wont notice . Toilet roll moaners ? just leave a single roll in the bathroom and when theyre sat shouting for a roll give them the worst generic paper you can find , they will be grateful . Coffee , just replace the good stuff with a generic in the good stuff jar if they notice tell them its the new improved variety ...dont argue just be crafty ....oh and the pets may sulk and eat nothing for days , but theres never been a pet starved to death because it doesnt like a change of brand

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  16. Great advice from someone like me who has been there from necessity ( you can't spend what you haven't got)! Another tip I would mention is to eat veggie as often as possible. It's years since I ate meat or fish but I understand it's very expensive now. Also true what you say about children eating what they are given. I know very few children who will not eat if they are hungry and the rest of the family are round the table eating the same thing. Over anxious parenting (a lot of it due to advertising and media pressure) and worrying children will starve if they don't eat their dinner is a fairly recent development. My children were not forced to eat meals if they didn't want to as toddlers but they received nothing until the next meal when they didn't and amazingly they ate that with relish.In consequence of this relaxed, non-fraught approach to food I have a 5 foot 7 ins daughter whose only dislike is marrow fat peas and a 6 foot 1 inch son whose only dislike is cucumber. Lots of kids around the world don't get enough to eat each day, your children are not going to suffer emotional damage if you refuse to buy them cheese strings ( ?) or horribly sweetened and coloured yoghurts. I don't use cleaning products or toiletries tested on animals but none of the co-ops have been for years including their basics stuff and vinegar and bicarb haven't either so it's not an issue financially or ethically.

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  17. Love the comment to on the posh packed lunches , something else she could do regarding the lunches is make , quiche like you said , cheese straws . little cakes if the school allows and say mom made these especially for me they can be batch baked and frozen at the beginning of the week , Also i find Tesco everyday deodorant 41p very good , i buy a few at a time when i see it as they tend to run out quick , either this or its a ploy to make you buy more expensive productsxxx

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  18. Best post ever Froogs.
    Like Julee I had to Google Bento box and still don't really understand!
    Love the "in nappies until 46" Some mums seem to feel it is almost cruel to potty train a toddler. As you say, if they had used towelling nappies they might rethink that. Did you know that people actually buy special bags to put dirty disposable nappies in ?!

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  19. My niece says Aldi nappies are brilliant. Aldi do lots of baby products on special offer. The advice to us when our son was young was NOT to lift toddlers on to the loo at night while they were asleep. We ignored it and had him dry at night by 2 and never had a wet bed. Saved a fortune on nappies.

    I'm ashamed to say that before we started clearing our debt, our food bill was double what it is now. We now mainly shop in Aldi but also buy what's on special offers in other supermarkets and stock up. We cook everything from scratch, often in bulk and freeze some for future meals. I've made packed lunches every day for nearly 30 years and always make food and flasks, bottles of water etc to take on days out and when we're on holiday. We never buy takeaways now (cooking a variety of meals at home means we have no cravings for something different). And I couldn't be bothered cooking different meals for everyone in the house. I'll never forget my health visitor telling me when my son was one, that it was time he was eating OUR food. I couldn't understand what she was talking about until she explained that he needed to be tasting home cooked food instead of jars. I told her that he had never had a jar of baby food in his life and she was gobsmacked to say the least! Every Sunday we would stand at the cooker and make up batches of home cooked baby food and freeze it in jars and tubs for the weeks to come. Saved a fortune and my son eats just about everything now. You can just cook extra of what you're having eg potatoes, vegetables and chicken and use a stick blender to make baby food.

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  20. Good advice about using what you already have! I call it shopping in the freezer.

    But I doubt if picky eating is a new phenomenon. Perhaps it's more tolerated now. I remember my mother sighing over my sisters' refusal to eat various foods, and the remaining sister is in her eighties now! but since my mom didn't have the budget for alternative meals, nor the time, with a big family, even though people might be picky, she simply couldn't cater to them. They just left what they couldn't eat. And other family members took care of it for them! Our home menus had two choices: Eat it. And Leave It!

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  21. I think it is all the stress surrounding failure to eat certain foods that is the problem and offering alternative meals and snacks between meals even when dinners are not eaten! I think this is definitely a new phenomenon. As you say for generations our parents fed us with a take it or leave it, no alternative attitude and we all survived. I know I was not the best in that I detested meat from the start but I just ate all the vegetables and scraped the filling from the like if it was meat and ate the pastry. My older brother and sister ate what I left as meat was an expensive and scarce commodity. My parents didn't have the resources to and anyway would not have dreamed of providing alternative meals for me. I gave up meat completely at 12 and would and will eat just about anything cooked or raw that is vegan. I am aware times have changed but parents need to take back some power by saying no, being honest as with past generations. If you can't afford something your children want explain that that's the case. Learn to say no and don't be emotionally blackmailed or unduly influenced by outside pressures. If you do the absolute best you can do for your children that is what they will remember and thank you for, not some ridiculous item you couldn't afford to buy for them!

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  22. I am a bento box mum! Well I used to be. Firstly whilst it describes posh version of a lunch box in here in the UK it actually just mean 'packed lunch' in Japanese. And that is where I used to make them, we lived there for 5 years and our daughter went to a Japanese school. Those were certainly not posh, they were just the local version of a packed lunch hence also frugal because I used the local stuff. I kept making them for some years after our return simply because my daughter learned to prefer rice. Unfortunately here bento came to mean strange, posh, often weird and expensive. I think it was hijacked by people who think that healthy means exotic, vegan, or unusual. My japanese food budget was identical to my UK one which is about £60 a week. Al you need to think is whether you are having the right portions of all the food groops. It really does not matter if it is peas or edamame, rice or pasta or a potato.

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  23. Marchand, I know being vegan might be trendy now but I have been so for years and it was not. In fact I have been treated like some sort of freak on occasion. I too only knew be to boxes as things used in Japan!

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  24. I currently feed six adults on a tight budget. It can be done, and yes, you might not always feel like cooking... or prepping... or planning. Those things save LOADS of money, though. My goal is to toss nothing. No waste. So, over the weekend, I roasted a large, whole chicken; the bottom skin stuck a bit to the roasting pan. Since I make broth anyway, after I removed all the meat from the chicken (which I always do to stretch it into stews, etc.), I placed the skin & bones back into the roasting pan, added water, and "baked" for a half hour in the oven (I had other things in the oven). This was a lazy homemade chicken broth that also soaked the roasting pan while it cooked. :-) The resulting broth was used in 2 additional recipes. Some of the chicken became chicken, broccoli and dumplings. We had one meal from sliced chicken meat, and a pot of soup with the leftovers. That's the other thing... on weekends I make enough meals to last a few days with lunches included. As long as I have the oven and/or stove top on, might as well cook as much as possible at once. Then I don't have to cook again for a few days, and I'm not tempted to order pizza or pick up burgers.

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  25. Excellent advice...now...why not 'Froogs the Family Food and Budget' book'?

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  26. Brilliant common sense advice. Fab post x

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  27. I'm new to your blog and just love your sensible advice! I do allot of meal planning but have been really bothered about the amount of money we spend each month on food regardless of my planning! This post is full of excellent advice and I am inspired by your challenge to cut down the weekly grocery bill. We spend about £100 - £125 per week for a family of four, if I can get my grocery bill down to £70 - £80 a week I will be happy :)

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  28. Good advice Froogs do you know what else I do to save money, don't go to massive super stores, Aldi don't have loads of comics, toys, clothes etc to tempt you or encourage your children to pester - saying that though I just say no to Twiglet anyway.

    Also eat before you shop so you don't over buy or buy snacks.

    My most important one for us, don't allow your child to grow up a fussy eater, Twiglet has what we have but adjusted to his taste. Eg he loves a homemade chilli or fajitas, I just make his a little less spicy. The only one thing he has tried and will always leave, are baked beans !!! no idea why as we love them, but there you go, he eat loads of fruit and veg and usually gets a stick of celery or a carrot as a post school snack, so I have no complaints :)
    Twiggy

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  29. Excellent sensible advice that a lot of people could learn from! xx

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  30. I'm bookmarking this post. It's so helpful!

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  31. Don't let your little ones fill up on milk between meals! I see so much waste from meals being left uneaten because children are no longer hungry and I work with children all day :(

    We have milk on cereal, some homemade yoghurt or cheese with morning tea or a half glass of milk for afternoon tea. That's it - small children don't need more than 2 cups of milk, so absolutely no more than 500ml and other calcium sources count towards that total.

    We also use skim milk from powder. I make up 2L at a time and put it in the fridge and because my daughter has never had anything different there are no complaints.

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  32. Not sure very soon. you got my comment last time. But I would like to say again, this is a very very good blog, in fact I think everyone should read it. I am going to act on all your advice as of today. Thank you so much froogs. Woo

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